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		<title>By: Dave the Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just don&#039;t get it do you!</description>
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		<title>By: Recluso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recluso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This time, the RSPCA has really shot themselves in the foot. Yes, there are some people that DO NOT abide by the breeding code of ethics, but to generalise that all dog breeders do not take the care to make the breed the very best it could be is preposterous. Blacklisting every breeder is not only misinformed but highly unjustified.

Yes, you get some immoral breeders who will not have the best genetic breedline, but at the same time, the Labra-Doodle, that crossbreed the RSPCA raves about has some of the worst genetics ever seen! Why isn&#039;t the RSPCA stopping the breeding of them instead of blackballing every breeder when in fact any sensible and decent breeder will be performing every test known to man to ensure that their puppies are as healthy as can be. Sometimes, genetic anomalies happen no matter how careful you are.

RSCPA boycott Crufts? I&#039;d rather boycott RSPCA. They meddle in affairs they obviously don&#039;t know anything about and are never there when you actually need them. Find something else to try and turn people against, it&#039;s bad enough that tail docking got banned because the Govt. listened to the shock videos of again, a few bad apples who shouldn&#039;t have been allowed dogs to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time, the RSPCA has really shot themselves in the foot. Yes, there are some people that DO NOT abide by the breeding code of ethics, but to generalise that all dog breeders do not take the care to make the breed the very best it could be is preposterous. Blacklisting every breeder is not only misinformed but highly unjustified.</p>
<p>Yes, you get some immoral breeders who will not have the best genetic breedline, but at the same time, the Labra-Doodle, that crossbreed the RSPCA raves about has some of the worst genetics ever seen! Why isn&#8217;t the RSPCA stopping the breeding of them instead of blackballing every breeder when in fact any sensible and decent breeder will be performing every test known to man to ensure that their puppies are as healthy as can be. Sometimes, genetic anomalies happen no matter how careful you are.</p>
<p>RSCPA boycott Crufts? I&#8217;d rather boycott RSPCA. They meddle in affairs they obviously don&#8217;t know anything about and are never there when you actually need them. Find something else to try and turn people against, it&#8217;s bad enough that tail docking got banned because the Govt. listened to the shock videos of again, a few bad apples who shouldn&#8217;t have been allowed dogs to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis if Breeders of pure bred dogs are utilizing the most current technologies and breeding practices known to man, then why are they not taking the advice of the scientists and opening the stud books? Maybe they&#039;ll use technologies only when it suits them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis if Breeders of pure bred dogs are utilizing the most current technologies and breeding practices known to man, then why are they not taking the advice of the scientists and opening the stud books? Maybe they&#8217;ll use technologies only when it suits them?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Trout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Trout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please realize that many of todays Breeders of pure bred dogs are utilizing the most current technologies and breeding practices known to man. Please not permit one bad apple to destroy the entire basket of apples. As Members of Breed PArent Clubs, we need to be proactive is stopping, preventing and correcting disabling and bad breeding practices.
Best to all in our sport.
As well as to all animal care givers.
Dennis Trout of the USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please realize that many of todays Breeders of pure bred dogs are utilizing the most current technologies and breeding practices known to man. Please not permit one bad apple to destroy the entire basket of apples. As Members of Breed PArent Clubs, we need to be proactive is stopping, preventing and correcting disabling and bad breeding practices.<br />
Best to all in our sport.<br />
As well as to all animal care givers.<br />
Dennis Trout of the USA</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Best Of Breed Classes at Crufts?  There never have been any.  Best of breed is chosen by taking the best of all the dog class winners, then the best of all the bitch class winners and then choosing the better of theses two winners.  Or does the RSPCA not pay any more attention to this aspect of the Kennel Club&#039;s own show than for all the work the Kennel Club has done into research into disease?  Ask any vet how many mongrels he sees with heart, kidney or skin problems or diabetes.  It is much easier to research pedigree dogs as the ancestors are known.  In over 25 years of careful breeding of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels (which does NOT include litter siblings or parents to offspring - that is a VERY rare scenario, despite the BBC programme showing it to be common practice) I have bred very few dogs who have had any problems with health.  The average lifespan has been just short of eleven years of age, with fewer health problems than human friends and family of comparable ages.  A few bitches died after uterine infections, most of them had never had puppies, which is a case for spaying bitches not intended for breeding and a totally different issue, and a problem that also happens in mongrel bitches.  Quite a few lived well into their teens, 15 and a half being the oldest.  Other breeds have a longer average lifespan, especially some of the &quot;unhealthy&quot; toy breeds.
The RSPCA would do better to look into the &quot;puppy farms&quot;, the breeders who churn out litter after litter of puppies and who do no health testing, do not follow pedigrees and do not adhere to any breed club code of ethics.  These are quite easy to detect from the Kennel Club Breeds Records supplement, where every puppy registered is listed with its date of birth, number of puppies in its litter, names of its parents, name of breeder, the number of previous litters produced by the bitch and the total number of puppies she has whelped. Each breed club maintains a list of owners, so the information is available.
Jane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Best Of Breed Classes at Crufts?  There never have been any.  Best of breed is chosen by taking the best of all the dog class winners, then the best of all the bitch class winners and then choosing the better of theses two winners.  Or does the RSPCA not pay any more attention to this aspect of the Kennel Club&#8217;s own show than for all the work the Kennel Club has done into research into disease?  Ask any vet how many mongrels he sees with heart, kidney or skin problems or diabetes.  It is much easier to research pedigree dogs as the ancestors are known.  In over 25 years of careful breeding of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels (which does NOT include litter siblings or parents to offspring &#8211; that is a VERY rare scenario, despite the BBC programme showing it to be common practice) I have bred very few dogs who have had any problems with health.  The average lifespan has been just short of eleven years of age, with fewer health problems than human friends and family of comparable ages.  A few bitches died after uterine infections, most of them had never had puppies, which is a case for spaying bitches not intended for breeding and a totally different issue, and a problem that also happens in mongrel bitches.  Quite a few lived well into their teens, 15 and a half being the oldest.  Other breeds have a longer average lifespan, especially some of the &#8220;unhealthy&#8221; toy breeds.<br />
The RSPCA would do better to look into the &#8220;puppy farms&#8221;, the breeders who churn out litter after litter of puppies and who do no health testing, do not follow pedigrees and do not adhere to any breed club code of ethics.  These are quite easy to detect from the Kennel Club Breeds Records supplement, where every puppy registered is listed with its date of birth, number of puppies in its litter, names of its parents, name of breeder, the number of previous litters produced by the bitch and the total number of puppies she has whelped. Each breed club maintains a list of owners, so the information is available.<br />
Jane</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan O'Meara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan O'Meara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farsical, I can tackle your points with pleasure.

When you said &quot;the above comment you were relating to has disappeared&quot; what&#039;s actually happened is, when YOU posted this under a different name (Vince Brooks):

&quot;How many unhealthy dogs do you see at Crufts?  A programme about the ever increasing number of puppy farmers and BYB&#039;s would have added far more value.&quot;

 - this is the comment you thought you were responding to. Only, and this is funny, because YOU posted it and then tried to respond to it as if you were a totally different person (i.e agreeing with YOUR own comment) that&#039;s your big error, right there.

ALL comments go in to a moderation queue. So what you (comically) have done is posted a comment, which YOU wrote, so only you would know what comment you were agreeing with.

This is very funny. That you would create a series of names, use different email addresses all to agree with your own points. And yet you think it&#039;s ME who&#039;s getting hot under the collar? Nope, my collar is as cool as it was yesterday thanks.

If you are going to attempt to mislead by creating several accounts, at least try and use a proxy server and then don&#039;t clown yourself by referencing a comment that only YOU could have seen. ALL comments go into moderation so the comment you thought you were agreeing with, was your own.

Oh, and although your credibility is now (hilariously) shot to pieces, I will answer at least one of your questions:

You asked &quot;how many unhealthy dogs do you see at Crufts anyway…….none, or else they would not be there? &quot;

I would point you in the direction of the 2003 BEST IN SHOW winner - and that&#039;s just for starters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farsical, I can tackle your points with pleasure.</p>
<p>When you said &#8220;the above comment you were relating to has disappeared&#8221; what&#8217;s actually happened is, when YOU posted this under a different name (Vince Brooks):</p>
<p>&#8220;How many unhealthy dogs do you see at Crufts?  A programme about the ever increasing number of puppy farmers and BYB&#8217;s would have added far more value.&#8221;</p>
<p> &#8211; this is the comment you thought you were responding to. Only, and this is funny, because YOU posted it and then tried to respond to it as if you were a totally different person (i.e agreeing with YOUR own comment) that&#8217;s your big error, right there.</p>
<p>ALL comments go in to a moderation queue. So what you (comically) have done is posted a comment, which YOU wrote, so only you would know what comment you were agreeing with.</p>
<p>This is very funny. That you would create a series of names, use different email addresses all to agree with your own points. And yet you think it&#8217;s ME who&#8217;s getting hot under the collar? Nope, my collar is as cool as it was yesterday thanks.</p>
<p>If you are going to attempt to mislead by creating several accounts, at least try and use a proxy server and then don&#8217;t clown yourself by referencing a comment that only YOU could have seen. ALL comments go into moderation so the comment you thought you were agreeing with, was your own.</p>
<p>Oh, and although your credibility is now (hilariously) shot to pieces, I will answer at least one of your questions:</p>
<p>You asked &#8220;how many unhealthy dogs do you see at Crufts anyway…….none, or else they would not be there? &#8221;</p>
<p>I would point you in the direction of the 2003 BEST IN SHOW winner &#8211; and that&#8217;s just for starters.</p>
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		<title>By: farsical</title>
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		<dc:creator>farsical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, the &#039;above&#039; comment I was relating to has now disappeared, when moderated are you choosing which comments you are happy to be printed. Obviously feeling a little hot under the collar there K9 magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, the &#8216;above&#8217; comment I was relating to has now disappeared, when moderated are you choosing which comments you are happy to be printed. Obviously feeling a little hot under the collar there K9 magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: farsical</title>
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		<dc:creator>farsical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with above comment, as in how many unhealthy dogs do you see at Crufts anyway.......none, or else they would not be there? 

Ryan - if you have pedigree dogs, are they KC registered, and from breeders with a long standing knowledge of the breed, or unregistered from back yard breeders, or someone with no knowledge of genetic defects and bred from dogs that have not been hip scored etc? Are you supporting back yard breeders, or those that have worked hard to improve the gene pool of their chosen breed.

The programme may make some people to make some hasty decisions, that could prove disastrous and to the detriment of a particular breed.

Crufts is a long standing institution, the pride of Britain, are you trying to ban Crufts altogether, as that is how it would appear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with above comment, as in how many unhealthy dogs do you see at Crufts anyway&#8230;&#8230;.none, or else they would not be there? </p>
<p>Ryan &#8211; if you have pedigree dogs, are they KC registered, and from breeders with a long standing knowledge of the breed, or unregistered from back yard breeders, or someone with no knowledge of genetic defects and bred from dogs that have not been hip scored etc? Are you supporting back yard breeders, or those that have worked hard to improve the gene pool of their chosen breed.</p>
<p>The programme may make some people to make some hasty decisions, that could prove disastrous and to the detriment of a particular breed.</p>
<p>Crufts is a long standing institution, the pride of Britain, are you trying to ban Crufts altogether, as that is how it would appear?</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where were the RSPCA for Bruce the dog seized in Northern Ireland for looking like a pit bull.  So the RSPCA object to breeders using a breed standard but not the Government sentencing dogs to death because they look a certain way.  
Bruces story was on you tube and to see the condition of the dog before he was seized and the condition after is appalling maybe the BBC should have done a documentary on that and the others that suffered appalling mistreatment and died while awaiting the outcome of their trials.
If you want to see photos here is a link.
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Northern_Ireland_K9/index.php?showtopic=2281&amp;st=0&amp;#last

While the Kennel club is not perfect it has spent a considerable amount of money over 1.7m in the last ten years invested in research and donations to rescue groups for the good of all dogs.
In another article on your site you mention that the Kennel club should follow other countries like Germany well guess what one of the breeds featured on the programme is a German breed that being the German Shepherd(the name sort of give it away) and they have not changed in twenty years but suddenly the RSPCA is concerned about them.  Have they not seen them in the last twenty years whey did they not raise the issue years ago.
Have to agree with Wendy The RSPCA vet calling all show dogs mutants wants sacking, and then you try to tell us that they are not tarring good breeders with the same brush. 
As someone else rightly pointed out it is only pedigree dogs that have health tests done on them by concerned breeders aiming to improve their breed so it is easy to compare dogs that have been tested with non pedigree dogs who have never been tested I wonder how.  And guess what the Kennel Club that is being bashed by the RSPCA has invested thousands in research but God don&#039;t show that or talk about that as it would not make good viewing or reading material.
The RSPCA got a donation this year of £48000 from the Kennel Club and yet this magazine has the nerve to accuse a dog food company of morals over money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where were the RSPCA for Bruce the dog seized in Northern Ireland for looking like a pit bull.  So the RSPCA object to breeders using a breed standard but not the Government sentencing dogs to death because they look a certain way.<br />
Bruces story was on you tube and to see the condition of the dog before he was seized and the condition after is appalling maybe the BBC should have done a documentary on that and the others that suffered appalling mistreatment and died while awaiting the outcome of their trials.<br />
If you want to see photos here is a link.<br />
<a href="http://z6.invisionfree.com/Northern_Ireland_K9/index.php?showtopic=2281&amp;st=0&amp;#last" rel="nofollow">http://z6.invisionfree.com/Northern_Ireland_K9/index.php?showtopic=2281&amp;st=0&amp;#last</a></p>
<p>While the Kennel club is not perfect it has spent a considerable amount of money over 1.7m in the last ten years invested in research and donations to rescue groups for the good of all dogs.<br />
In another article on your site you mention that the Kennel club should follow other countries like Germany well guess what one of the breeds featured on the programme is a German breed that being the German Shepherd(the name sort of give it away) and they have not changed in twenty years but suddenly the RSPCA is concerned about them.  Have they not seen them in the last twenty years whey did they not raise the issue years ago.<br />
Have to agree with Wendy The RSPCA vet calling all show dogs mutants wants sacking, and then you try to tell us that they are not tarring good breeders with the same brush.<br />
As someone else rightly pointed out it is only pedigree dogs that have health tests done on them by concerned breeders aiming to improve their breed so it is easy to compare dogs that have been tested with non pedigree dogs who have never been tested I wonder how.  And guess what the Kennel Club that is being bashed by the RSPCA has invested thousands in research but God don&#8217;t show that or talk about that as it would not make good viewing or reading material.<br />
The RSPCA got a donation this year of £48000 from the Kennel Club and yet this magazine has the nerve to accuse a dog food company of morals over money.</p>
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		<title>By: Teapot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant see the reasoning behind the RSPCA pulling out? I was personally appalled at the state of the GSD&#039;s and the genetic defects in CKSC, &#039;but&#039;, the problem I have is the way in which the programme indicated that all breeds that met the KC standard were not bred with the health and temperament in mind.  NOT all breeds have genetic defects, and NOT all breeds are not routinely screened before being bred. Even if the KC put restrictions on breeding, who is going to control the BYB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant see the reasoning behind the RSPCA pulling out? I was personally appalled at the state of the GSD&#8217;s and the genetic defects in CKSC, &#8216;but&#8217;, the problem I have is the way in which the programme indicated that all breeds that met the KC standard were not bred with the health and temperament in mind.  NOT all breeds have genetic defects, and NOT all breeds are not routinely screened before being bred. Even if the KC put restrictions on breeding, who is going to control the BYB?</p>
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