Comments on: What’s The Deal With Hybrid Dogs? http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/653/whats-the-deal-with-hybrid-dogs/ the lifestyle magazine for dog lovers Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:23:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: stacey http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/653/whats-the-deal-with-hybrid-dogs/#comment-124670 stacey Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:11:27 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/?p=653#comment-124670 The problem with these so-called designer dogs are that people are ignorant, plain and simple. When you get two pure bred dogs, and are creating these overpriced mutts, you are getting not only the best of both worlds, but also the worst. What is singled out is the "best" and that people think mutts are particularly healthier than purebreds, which isn't necesasrily true might I add. Now let's put something into perspective. I have 2 border collies, now suggest a border collie get bred to a lab, and yes (unfortunately...) there is a designer dog for this cross called a "borador" (I want to refrain from cussing at this, which I can lend a good 10-page essay on why this is wrong). Border collies are prone to hip dysplasia, as well as labs. Border collies are THE most intelligent breed of dog, which labs are also up there as well. Border collies are high energy, on crack and caffeine, energy hogs. Labs are stubborn, work all day types too. When you mix the two, you can get a dog that is likely to inherit the bad diseases or genetic problems from BOTH sides. Better yet, any RIGHTFUL minded breeder, wether it be AKC or UKC, will not allow for THEIR breeding of purebred dog to be bred to a different breed. Most ignorant people see on the newspapers, websites, and other places "AKC bred dog, ch. lines, parents on site, 500$" and think they have a "snag" because the parents have a background with a "Ch." title, which for those who are slow, is not a hard thing to attain. It's just like a beauty pageant. I can look at 20 dogs, and say, "ok, to me, this looks like the prettiest." And after a few weekends a dog can easily get a CH title. And that is it. It is somewhat meaningless. These dogs are not tested, dont have OFA or CERF tests, or health guarantees. And then when someone gets a dog in the wrong hands, they find an attribute they seem fitting for other dogs to have, and try to breed their dog. This is bad. It rides on the question, just because we can, should we? These people are to blame for the unwanted population of dogs. I advocate adopting from a shelter, but I will never support a shelter. I advocate rescue. But I don't advocate people BACK YARD BREEDING DOGS. But I will always buy from a reputable breeder. I have a border collie from one of the best agility dogs in the nation, and you will never see a dog from his breeder in a shelter as the breeder screens possible owners and asks for references. The breeder would never sell to a first time dog owner. And for the imbeciles ruining it for us, there are more severe laws trying to pass for things as minor as a leash law. My dogs heel better than most 8 year olds who walk with their moms! HOW PATHETIC. These labradoodles, cock-a-shits, or anything need to stop! The problem with these so-called designer dogs are that people are ignorant, plain and simple. When you get two pure bred dogs, and are creating these overpriced mutts, you are getting not only the best of both worlds, but also the worst. What is singled out is the “best” and that people think mutts are particularly healthier than purebreds, which isn’t necesasrily true might I add. Now let’s put something into perspective. I have 2 border collies, now suggest a border collie get bred to a lab, and yes (unfortunately…) there is a designer dog for this cross called a “borador” (I want to refrain from cussing at this, which I can lend a good 10-page essay on why this is wrong). Border collies are prone to hip dysplasia, as well as labs. Border collies are THE most intelligent breed of dog, which labs are also up there as well. Border collies are high energy, on crack and caffeine, energy hogs. Labs are stubborn, work all day types too. When you mix the two, you can get a dog that is likely to inherit the bad diseases or genetic problems from BOTH sides. Better yet, any RIGHTFUL minded breeder, wether it be AKC or UKC, will not allow for THEIR breeding of purebred dog to be bred to a different breed. Most ignorant people see on the newspapers, websites, and other places “AKC bred dog, ch. lines, parents on site, 500$” and think they have a “snag” because the parents have a background with a “Ch.” title, which for those who are slow, is not a hard thing to attain. It’s just like a beauty pageant. I can look at 20 dogs, and say, “ok, to me, this looks like the prettiest.” And after a few weekends a dog can easily get a CH title. And that is it. It is somewhat meaningless. These dogs are not tested, dont have OFA or CERF tests, or health guarantees. And then when someone gets a dog in the wrong hands, they find an attribute they seem fitting for other dogs to have, and try to breed their dog. This is bad. It rides on the question, just because we can, should we? These people are to blame for the unwanted population of dogs. I advocate adopting from a shelter, but I will never support a shelter. I advocate rescue. But I don’t advocate people BACK YARD BREEDING DOGS. But I will always buy from a reputable breeder. I have a border collie from one of the best agility dogs in the nation, and you will never see a dog from his breeder in a shelter as the breeder screens possible owners and asks for references. The breeder would never sell to a first time dog owner. And for the imbeciles ruining it for us, there are more severe laws trying to pass for things as minor as a leash law. My dogs heel better than most 8 year olds who walk with their moms! HOW PATHETIC. These labradoodles, cock-a-shits, or anything need to stop!

]]> By: Kris http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/653/whats-the-deal-with-hybrid-dogs/#comment-20733 Kris Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:28:52 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/?p=653#comment-20733 I'm fine with the development of a new breed for a purpose, like the idea of a service dog for allergy sufferers. I can see how this breed could be refined using the best service dogs, resulting in dogs that are predictably good at being service dogs and also predictably have a non-shedding coat. Creation of a new breed takes a lot of commitment, though, and it's going to be very hard with this cross already having become popular. I am not okay with the breeding of dogs solely as pets. A good breeder is aspiring to something--they should want to make better dogs (health-wise, performance-wise, behavior-wise, appearance-wise), not just produce "nice pets" for sale to the public. You can get a nice pet anywhere. Go to the animal shelter and you'll find a lot of nice pets that were just discarded, many for no reason at all or for reasons that are easy to correct. People who breed dogs to sell as pets for exorbitant prices really have no place in the dog fancy. And people who do that with mongrel dogs are perhaps even worse, because they're ripping people off. No mongrel, "designer" or not, is monetarily worth more than a few hundred bucks unless it's a fabulous working dog. Don't think I am being down on mongrels--the world has many fine mongrels and in fact many are fantastic pets or better at their working duties than most kennel club purebreds are. I just don't think people should be breeding them on purpose unless they are really aiming to produce something they can't get easily from existing breeds, something besides a good family pet. Good family pets are so common they die every day in shelters due to not enough homes being available. I’m fine with the development of a new breed for a purpose, like the idea of a service dog for allergy sufferers. I can see how this breed could be refined using the best service dogs, resulting in dogs that are predictably good at being service dogs and also predictably have a non-shedding coat. Creation of a new breed takes a lot of commitment, though, and it’s going to be very hard with this cross already having become popular.

I am not okay with the breeding of dogs solely as pets. A good breeder is aspiring to something–they should want to make better dogs (health-wise, performance-wise, behavior-wise, appearance-wise), not just produce “nice pets” for sale to the public. You can get a nice pet anywhere. Go to the animal shelter and you’ll find a lot of nice pets that were just discarded, many for no reason at all or for reasons that are easy to correct.

People who breed dogs to sell as pets for exorbitant prices really have no place in the dog fancy. And people who do that with mongrel dogs are perhaps even worse, because they’re ripping people off. No mongrel, “designer” or not, is monetarily worth more than a few hundred bucks unless it’s a fabulous working dog.

Don’t think I am being down on mongrels–the world has many fine mongrels and in fact many are fantastic pets or better at their working duties than most kennel club purebreds are. I just don’t think people should be breeding them on purpose unless they are really aiming to produce something they can’t get easily from existing breeds, something besides a good family pet. Good family pets are so common they die every day in shelters due to not enough homes being available.

]]> By: emm http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/653/whats-the-deal-with-hybrid-dogs/#comment-18213 emm Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:21:16 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/?p=653#comment-18213 well selectivly crossing breeds to fix any inherent problems is not a bad think if it is done after we have sorted the shelter crisis well selectivly crossing breeds to fix any inherent problems is not a bad think

if it is done after we have sorted the shelter crisis

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