Government Makes Dogs Dinner of Dangerous Dogs Consultation

Published on March 17, 2010 by   ·   7 Comments

Less than a week after announcing their public consultation call on dangerous dogs, the Government has announced that one of the much touted ideas – compulsory insurance for all dogs – has been ditched. The U-turn is not only embarrassing back track, it also highlights the ineptitude of those charged with the task of issuing dog related legislation. Not only that, given the rationale for the about turn – citing the problem of only so-called ‘responsible’ owners being prepared to take out the insurance, then it must, surely, also knock on the head the whole idea of compulsory microchipping too, as the exact same logic applies.Launched to great fanfare just seven days ago, the Home Secretary and Environment Secretary Hillary Benn faced the press to talk about the problem of so-called status dogs or ‘weapon’ dogs.

This embarrassing climb down, less than a week after the initial launch is not the first in this already botched attempt at fixing the much derided Dangerous Dogs Act of 1991.

A Home Office grant of £20,000 is to be spent this year helping police forces train dedicated dog legislation officers to deal with dangerous dogs.

A leaked Whitehall discussion document on dog control legislation suggested that competence tests for dog owners would also be included. This sparked a storm of protest on the blogosphere among dog lovers and does not appear to have been included in the final version.

Benn said: “There is a lot of public concern about dog attacks, including the recent tragic deaths of young children, and about the rise in the number of so-called ‘status dogs’ used to intimidate or threaten people. This is a serious issue of public safety.

“The government wants to hear what people think about the law as it stands and what more we might do to protect people from dangerous dogs.”

Just a few weeks ago a suspiciously leaded Whitehall discussion document on dog control legislation hinted that competence tests for dog owners would also be discussed. However, this was not included in the final consultation document either.

It seems the Government is bumbling and lurching from one idea to another and flailing around in an attempt to kick dog legislation about like a political football.

Benn said: “There is a lot of public concern about dog attacks, including the recent tragic deaths of young children, and about the rise in the number of so-called ‘status dogs’ used to intimidate or threaten people. This is a serious issue of public safety.

“The government wants to hear what people think about the law as it stands and what more we might do to protect people from dangerous dogs.”

Well, it seems, the Government doesn’t want to hear what the public has to say at all, given it’s already made two decisions on two of the most prominent ideas touted within just a few weeks and on the back of a media reaction.

The need to remove, completely, breed specific legislation from UK law doesn’t appear to be up for discussion and it looks increasingly clear that even the proposal to insist all dog owners microchip their dogs can also be discounted, given the logic and reasoning used today by the Government:

Mr Benn said: “We can rule out compulsory insurance for all dogs. The idea of compulsory insurance was something that was raised with us because of the horrific injuries some very dangerous dogs can cause.

“It was therefore included in the government consultation document. But we would still be interested in views on whether third-party insurance could be a requirement of a dog control notice (ie if a dog is causing a problem).”

“We don’t want to penalise the vast majority of responsible dog owners because they’re just as concerned as everybody else about that small minority who mistreat dogs, get them involved in dog fighting or use dogs as weapons.

“We’ve got to make sure that the public are protected and we’re taking public concern seriously by asking how can we sensibly review the law that we’ve currently got.”

The Government’s view that forcing dog owners to compulsorily insure their dogs is ‘punishing’ responsible owners surely brings in to major doubt the proposal to insist all dogs be chipped, too. If the opinion is, as it seems to be, that only responsible owners will comply and adhere to the law, then the exact same must surely be true of compulsory chipping. There is no difference at all in the compliance argument with regard to insurance versus chipping.

Given this, it is sure to upset some of the animal charities who’ve campaigned for compulsory chipping as there is now zero chance the Government can push such an idea through without drawing accusations of hypocrisy, double standards and incompetence.

Nobody has yet put forward a credible argument as to how one compulsory scheme can and will work whereas another compulsory scheme wouldn’t. It seems politics are, once again, more to the fore than logic and clear thinking.

The Conservatives accused ministers of messing up the proposals.

Shadow environment secretary Nick Herbert: “Labour have dithered for years on this issue and then rushed out a policy consultation weeks before an election that was immediately seen as totally flawed.

“A dog tax on more than five million owners was proposed last week, and is now ruled out by Hilary Benn in a humiliating U-turn that just proves how tired and incompetent this government has become.

“We need a comprehensive approach to this problem with a focus on the minority of owners who use dangerous dogs as weapons, not the vast majority of responsible dog lovers.”

Mr Herbert failed to mention that it was his own party who launched and implemented the 1991 Dangerous Dogs Act, one of the most derided and unsuccessful laws in UK history and that Kit Malthouse, the deputy mayor for policing in London is still a big supporter of that very law.

It appears none of the political parties have a clue when it comes to dangerous dogs.

The RSPCA were one of the loudest voices in speaking out about s0-called ‘status’ dogs, a term which is not only stupid, undefined and openly prejudiced, causing many responsible owners of dogs such as Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Mastiffs and Rottweilers to feel persecuted and under attack, but it seems even they can’t quite get their position straight.

K9 Magazine has seen communication from the RSPCA suggesting they do not use or like the term status dog as it could just as easily apply to the likes of Paris Hilton as anyone else, yet on their own website(s) The RSPCA has dedicated sections to….yes, you guessed it – STATUS DOGS!

1) There is nor ever will be a legal definition of what a ‘status dog’ is. Many people own dogs for a wide variety of different reasons.can

2) If a person is using a dog as a ‘weapon’ there are already laws that tackle this crime (and it IS a crime, right now).

So, if there is such a rise in the so-called ‘status’ or ‘weapon’ dogs, then what exactly are the authorities doing right now to address this?

The Government minister for the Environment cites the deaths of 5 children in the UK when talking about this issue, yet in all 5 cases, those children were killed by family dogs on the family property. In those cases, the children killed were mauled by dogs who lived at the property and where the dog’s owner was not present at the time.

This can be put down to sheer ignorance with regard to the risks associated with dogs. It’s got nothing to do with out of control kids, hoodlums, status dogs, weapon dogs or any other glib, sound-bite or gimmick. These children died as a result of sheer ignorance and a lack of judgement from the people in charge of those dogs and the only cure for ignorance, is education. Not microchips, not insurance and not hype. Education. Compulsory education.

Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Chris Huhne put the boot in to the Government, saying: “Another headline-grabbing Labour announcement has gone to the dogs.

“The law on dangerous dogs does need to be tightened up but not by a canine tax on millions of law-abiding British dog lovers.”

The fact remains, NONE of these politicians have come up with single, sensible solution between them. They’ve asked the public for their view but have already shown just how shallow that appeal actually is, having ditched two of the most prominent discussion points already.

Given the reasoning for this decision, there is no chance at all that the Government can push through a compulsory microchipping proposal as the exact same objections they’ve cited themselves as a reason NOT to pursue compulsory education or compulsory insurance applies to microchips, too.

It would seem that if people are going to make suggestions about how to fix our broken dangerous dogs act – be they in Government or prominent canine organisations – they should, at the very least, make sure they’ve thought through what they’re saying, what they’re asking for, what they’re objecting to (and on what grounds) before they collectively shoot themselves in the foot and come across to the public as bumbling around without any sound, clear logic between them, all of which will leave us in just as much of a mess as are today.

It’s as simple as this:

If BSL worked, why do we still have these problems that are being discussed, seemingly every week?

If BSL was even practical, how many thousands of innocent dogs would have to be wiped out in a state sponsored, dog killing spree before the next ‘status’ dog came up on the rails?

If one compulsory initiative ‘can’t be done’ on the basis that some people will ignore it, why bother with ANY law at all? After all, what’s the point in ME paying car insurance and taking a driving test when I know full well that there are plenty of people who don’t? Surely this Government should just ditch the entire concept, giving in to the idea that because certain people won’t comply, the idea itself is bad? Seems pretty weak-willed, limp and pathetic when we’re deciding against legislation on the basis of the minority of people who are going to break the law.

If you are a dog organisation and you object to a compulsory scheme for education, even describing it as ‘ludicrous’ then don’t make yourself seem completely out of touch by then getting behind your own compulsory scheme which is subject to the EXACT same problems as any other compulsory scheme – if certain people will ignore compulsory education, what on earth makes you think they’ll go along to a vet to get their dogs chipped? That, I’m afraid, is ludicrous thinking. and it makes you seem self-interested and detached from logic and reason. It’s hypocrisy and it sets the debate back.

If you are a major dog charity who puts on a public image of being against BSL, it would sound much, much more convincing if A) You actually did something to ensure we are rid of BSL immediately and B) You don’t make private comments to journalists expressing the view that ‘campaigning against BSL is pointless’ (you know who you are.)

It would seem, depressingly, that the woolly thinking, knee-jerk reaction to hype and media noise that was at the forefront when Ken Baker rushed through his failed Dangerous Dogs Act is as prevalent in 2010 as it was in 1991.

The personnel may have changed, but the screamingly disjointed, illogical, self-interested voices are pretty much the same now as they were then.

Whilst the UK retains a practice, enshrined in law, that seeks to kill dogs because of what they look like, we have absolutely no right to call ourselves a national of animal lovers and we have no right to expect a single, shred of difference when it comes to dealing with the problem of irresponsible dog ownership.

It may have escaped some people’s attention when they talk about responsible dog owners paying for the irresponsible ones, but that’s exactly what’s happening RIGHT NOW.

Where else does the money come from that allows charities to deal with the thousands and thousand of abandoned dogs?

Where else does the money come from that allows police to round up (many innocent) dogs, keeping them in kennels (often seeing them die in those kennels) whilst experts argue about whether the dog is a pit bull or not. That costs the tax payer MILLIONS of POUNDS.

Where else does the money come from to fund the over worked, under paid dog wardens who have to pick up the pieces of irresponsible dog ownership?

That’s right, the tax payer foots the bill once more.

So come on, can we cut to the chase – this public consultation idea has been a disaster, a sham, from the start. Decisions are made before the public even has the chance to mail their views.

Whether we get a new Govt of the Conservatives, Labour, the Lib Dems or a combination of any two, NONE of them have actually come out and acknowledged that breed specific legislation is a failed, expensive concept that has actually exacerbated the problem of dangerous dogs, so whilst the UK still deploys BSL as a concept, we can expect (and would deserve) more of the same. Which political party is going to be brave enough and intelligent enough to make the right call and end BSL and place the emphasis of ALL dog related legislation on owners, not dogs?

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Readers Comments (7)
  1. Victoria Thomas says:

    Can we please stop talking about Status Dogs, as though they are some kind of banner for the feckless and ignorant to flaunt, it gives them a kind of glamour to those with an IQ of a gnat?!
    Exactly the same as the newly coined Dogbos. To those who can manage to pass wind, but not an exam, Asbos and Dogbos are some sort of certificate in warped little minds. A record of achievement.
    I would scrap Asbos and try prison, or even–shock, horror— some kind of compulsory work. (Not the so called Community Service, another failure because nobody polices it).
    Feral youth and the sort of miscreants who keep these poor dogs should be treated with zero tolerance, one strike and you’re in prison for a hefty sentence.
    What we need most of all is effective policing, and for the police–Not the RSPCA– to get these people into court.

  2. MrQ says:

    Anti BSL is pure BS a law made by idiots to make sure idiots didnt get hold of certain dogs.

    It hasnt stopped the tide of APBTs in the UK if anything it has just removed these dogs from the hands of responsible owners and placed them in the hands of criminals.

    Illegal APBT owner in the UK

  3. selwyn marock says:

    As the article points out,the laws are there.Dog-Fighting is illegal,enforcement virtually zero,the miscreant goes to court and pays a five quid fine.The Elly Lawrensen debacle,their the uncle should have been criminally charged with murder, he had been feeding the 8 month old puppy,anabolic steroids.This Scumbag was an in and out of jail drug-dealer whose hobby was dog-fighting.
    smarock10@yahoo.com

  4. Frankie says:

    it’s already illegal to fight dogs

    a dog acting dangerously and not under proper control is illegal isn’t it?

    we don’t need more laws for ‘weapon dogs’ or for youth setting dogs on each other over the park

    all the millions wasted on killing pit bull types could be spent on mobile neutering units that go out and give free neutering to local dogs to help cut down on the massive overbreeding problem

  5. Complete and absolute dog lover says:

    Hi ,
    i am replying to the person above that mentioned the fact that the government should supply neutering units for people that would use them to cut down the over breeding of dogs.
    I am not sure if the units could be mobile but i totally agree that some sort of voucher scheme could be made available through the vets via government funding so that more people could get their dogs spayed and neutered.It cost me £170 to neuter my staffie and i had to borrow that from my aunt and uncle as i have been off work because of illness.
    As far as the debate goes on illegal type breeds all i can say is that i rescued two supposedly pit bull types from the hands of some young lads that were going to use them for less than desirable purposes i rescued them with the help of a friend (he is a gentle giant) but can be nasty if he wants to be as he is an animal lover like myself. The two dogs are in a home where they are loved and cared for and they are the most loving pets any one could ever own, Like most other dog lovers all i say is that it is not the breed that is at fault it is the owner. More should be done if owners are breeding for profit and fighting their animals, those people should be jailed and never allowed to keep animals again, i would even say they should do an experiment within the police force and let a few experienced dog handlers take on the care of a few pit-bull type dogs
    (i am being quite serious) they would then see how loyal, intelligent affectionate these dogs can be given the correct owner and the right environment.

  6. Frankie says:

    My mate wanted to have his stafford cross dog spayed, but it cost about £140 and he just don’t have they sort of cash free, the dog has a good home with family and kids, but work is hard to find, i know he would jump at he chance to have her neutered, they can’t get the help with free neutering as they not on any benefits

  7. Holdim says:

    Another article rubbishing everybody else’s efforts whilst suggesting nothing!! The problem of the unsociable use of dogs is the same as drugs, weapons, violence and every other crime, the amount of powers that the police would require to tackle the issue effectively would have every human rights lawyer rubbing his hands, and i’m sure many of the same people who love to write in against BSL would be on another site having a go at the police state. In my force area 43% of the dogs that caused life changing injuries to people were PBT, a dog that acoounts for less than 1% of the dogs in this country!!! Go figure!





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