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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 05:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education is certainly the key. May be worth considering something like this from the state of Victoria in Australia http://new.dpi.vic.gov.au/we-are-family

This available in all maternity hospitals and maternal child health Centres. It has one major message If you cannot actively supervise securely separate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education is certainly the key. May be worth considering something like this from the state of Victoria in Australia <a href="http://new.dpi.vic.gov.au/we-are-family" rel="nofollow">http://new.dpi.vic.gov.au/we-are-family</a></p>
<p>This available in all maternity hospitals and maternal child health Centres. It has one major message If you cannot actively supervise securely separate.</p>
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		<title>By: darren brewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>darren brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April 17th - just seen in the news 18 month baby killed by mastiff in family home, the owner was out when attack happened. When will people learn you can&#039;t leave a loaded gun with a child! Even the most placid muscular dog would knock a child to the ground and try to lick them to death, any response by the child could invoke an attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April 17th &#8211; just seen in the news 18 month baby killed by mastiff in family home, the owner was out when attack happened. When will people learn you can&#8217;t leave a loaded gun with a child! Even the most placid muscular dog would knock a child to the ground and try to lick them to death, any response by the child could invoke an attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Felicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clearly you didn&#039;t hear about the baby killed by a lab puppy, or the one by a pomaranian, or the number of people killed by st banards!
news stories, and stats don&#039;t take the actions of the owners into account! 

if people like you would just admit the truth, that people create dog attacks, we could then focus all the resources on a law that ACTUALLY WORKS! 

by the way, italy and the neverlands have lifted their breed bans because it DID NOT LEAD TO A DECREASE IN DOG ATTACKS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clearly you didn&#8217;t hear about the baby killed by a lab puppy, or the one by a pomaranian, or the number of people killed by st banards!<br />
news stories, and stats don&#8217;t take the actions of the owners into account! </p>
<p>if people like you would just admit the truth, that people create dog attacks, we could then focus all the resources on a law that ACTUALLY WORKS! </p>
<p>by the way, italy and the neverlands have lifted their breed bans because it DID NOT LEAD TO A DECREASE IN DOG ATTACKS!</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these are the immediate circumstances of the attacks but one needs to delve deeper. 
firstly the 2 rotweilers on the roof were guard dogs, unsocialised and normally kept confined. a door was left open. a good smelling bundle was discovered and the dogs decided to have a game of tug of war.

little ellie was killed by a pitbull that was far too big for its age and had been given steroids so most likely used for intimidation purposes.

as has been stated with archie, he was led by another child into the domain of a dog used soley as a guard dog and kept prisoner for 5 months.

jaden mack was being neglected at the time of the attack. as a mother i was appalled to hear that this baby had been left on top of a table. whos to say that the dogs dragged it off. babies wriggle like mad. if you have them on a changing mat you have to hold them while you get the nappy as they will roll straight off. 
alot of dogs would grab at a bundle if it fell on the floor. alot of people give thier dogs squeaky toys, a baby sqealing could well be seen as a toy.

the gsds owner had already been in trouble for not being able to control his dogs. if no leader is present a dog will take the role.

john paul was killed by a dog that was being used for intimidation by its owner. people had complained and nothing had been done.
 in almost all cases of fatal attacks warnings have been given about the dogs and signs could have been seen but nothing was done resulting in these awful cases.

in most fatal dog attacks here and abroard. the dogs have been trained to be aggressive. from my research on this over the years i have discovered that this is the single biggest ruiner of dogs.
guarding breeds do not need to be trained to guard and should actually mostly be discouraged as, if thier guarding instincts are needed, they will come to the fore naturally. i have never guard trained my american bulldogs but have still always felt completely safe. but then im not a cowardly chav who needs a dog to make me feel hard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these are the immediate circumstances of the attacks but one needs to delve deeper.<br />
firstly the 2 rotweilers on the roof were guard dogs, unsocialised and normally kept confined. a door was left open. a good smelling bundle was discovered and the dogs decided to have a game of tug of war.</p>
<p>little ellie was killed by a pitbull that was far too big for its age and had been given steroids so most likely used for intimidation purposes.</p>
<p>as has been stated with archie, he was led by another child into the domain of a dog used soley as a guard dog and kept prisoner for 5 months.</p>
<p>jaden mack was being neglected at the time of the attack. as a mother i was appalled to hear that this baby had been left on top of a table. whos to say that the dogs dragged it off. babies wriggle like mad. if you have them on a changing mat you have to hold them while you get the nappy as they will roll straight off.<br />
alot of dogs would grab at a bundle if it fell on the floor. alot of people give thier dogs squeaky toys, a baby sqealing could well be seen as a toy.</p>
<p>the gsds owner had already been in trouble for not being able to control his dogs. if no leader is present a dog will take the role.</p>
<p>john paul was killed by a dog that was being used for intimidation by its owner. people had complained and nothing had been done.<br />
 in almost all cases of fatal attacks warnings have been given about the dogs and signs could have been seen but nothing was done resulting in these awful cases.</p>
<p>in most fatal dog attacks here and abroard. the dogs have been trained to be aggressive. from my research on this over the years i have discovered that this is the single biggest ruiner of dogs.<br />
guarding breeds do not need to be trained to guard and should actually mostly be discouraged as, if thier guarding instincts are needed, they will come to the fore naturally. i have never guard trained my american bulldogs but have still always felt completely safe. but then im not a cowardly chav who needs a dog to make me feel hard</p>
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		<title>By: felicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>felicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to agree. schools should be teaching dog safety. it has acctually beb proven that a 1 hour dog safety class for years 3 &amp;4 reduced dog attacks on that age group by 80%! so if everyone was having dog safe lessions that would be a huge reduction in dog attacks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to agree. schools should be teaching dog safety. it has acctually beb proven that a 1 hour dog safety class for years 3 &amp;4 reduced dog attacks on that age group by 80%! so if everyone was having dog safe lessions that would be a huge reduction in dog attacks!</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, and generally good logical comments.

There are many options going forward, up for discussion:

1.  How about introducing licensing for all dogs?

In South Africa we have to have a dog license on your dog&#039;s collar. No license, dog is confiscated (that is one aspect of the dog warden&#039;s job), and to get the dog back owners have to pay a license fee.  That way when registering your dog the breed is logged, and the authorities also get a chance to check out the owner as well and their circumstances.

2.  Another option would be to have Housing Authorities to put a limit on the breed and size of pet allowed in their houses.  

3.  All breeders should be registered.  All dogs neutered by law unless you are a registered breeder.

This is a responsibility that should be shared from Vets, Housing Authority, Local Council, and backed up by the Police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, and generally good logical comments.</p>
<p>There are many options going forward, up for discussion:</p>
<p>1.  How about introducing licensing for all dogs?</p>
<p>In South Africa we have to have a dog license on your dog&#8217;s collar. No license, dog is confiscated (that is one aspect of the dog warden&#8217;s job), and to get the dog back owners have to pay a license fee.  That way when registering your dog the breed is logged, and the authorities also get a chance to check out the owner as well and their circumstances.</p>
<p>2.  Another option would be to have Housing Authorities to put a limit on the breed and size of pet allowed in their houses.  </p>
<p>3.  All breeders should be registered.  All dogs neutered by law unless you are a registered breeder.</p>
<p>This is a responsibility that should be shared from Vets, Housing Authority, Local Council, and backed up by the Police.</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Liese when you say &#039;informed is to be ready and aware&#039;

I look after my young nephew and the dog, I want to be informed and not kept in the dark with any devil dog bullshit, I don&#039;t need to be brainwashed about how terrible some breeds are suppose to be, it don&#039;t help me none, i would rather learn about sommit a bit more useful as my nephew means the world to me and I want to look after him proper when he&#039;s with me and always protect him and the dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Liese when you say &#8216;informed is to be ready and aware&#8217;</p>
<p>I look after my young nephew and the dog, I want to be informed and not kept in the dark with any devil dog bullshit, I don&#8217;t need to be brainwashed about how terrible some breeds are suppose to be, it don&#8217;t help me none, i would rather learn about sommit a bit more useful as my nephew means the world to me and I want to look after him proper when he&#8217;s with me and always protect him and the dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Opinions on staffordshire bull terriers - Netmums Coffeehouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opinions on staffordshire bull terriers - Netmums Coffeehouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: liesa Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>liesa Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article... Thank you. 
Lets hope people read it &amp; see how they can possibly help prevent these awful tragedies from happening.

Prevention is better than cure. To be informed is to be ready &amp; aware.

I think the government should be looking into this... I wont hold my breath!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article&#8230; Thank you.<br />
Lets hope people read it &amp; see how they can possibly help prevent these awful tragedies from happening.</p>
<p>Prevention is better than cure. To be informed is to be ready &amp; aware.</p>
<p>I think the government should be looking into this&#8230; I wont hold my breath!</p>
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		<title>By: chris kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a useful article with facts presented well- with no death trivialised -quite the opposite. surely the question must also be not only &#039;would you leave your dog alone with these people&#039; but also would you leave your CHILDREN alone with these people.often the childrens parents are no where around, and neither is the owner of the dog.it doesnt seem you can legislate for irresponsible people! sadly the innocent suffer!(both the dogs and kids!)i run an educational project and do as much as possible to get safety messages across to the kids themselves.but there needs to be more done. 
ps ima a staffy type owner and am a fully functioning paid up memeber of society!!:-)  insulting ignorant comments do nothing to help the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a useful article with facts presented well- with no death trivialised -quite the opposite. surely the question must also be not only &#8216;would you leave your dog alone with these people&#8217; but also would you leave your CHILDREN alone with these people.often the childrens parents are no where around, and neither is the owner of the dog.it doesnt seem you can legislate for irresponsible people! sadly the innocent suffer!(both the dogs and kids!)i run an educational project and do as much as possible to get safety messages across to the kids themselves.but there needs to be more done.<br />
ps ima a staffy type owner and am a fully functioning paid up memeber of society!!:-)  insulting ignorant comments do nothing to help the debate.</p>
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