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	<title>Comments on: TV Programme Send in The Dogs &#8211; Should it be Send in the Men in White Coats?</title>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Presdee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Presdee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>January 2011.Instead of stepping on the GSD&#039;s toes and making him high step  , you train along a straight wall (one seen on indoor arena would do). The owner swings his hands when walking , making it harder for a dog to work neatly.The Sit command needs to be faster from the owner ..and again use the straight wall , work in tight so the dog cannot have the time to go in front. Re sitting the dog using hands , shifting him  by force in an uncomfortable area of the dog , does not work.In a finish , where the dog goes round the owner to heel , mix up german and english finish so the dog doesn&#039;t learn to anticipate , use the Sit command very quickly on the english finish so the dog sits straight , no time for it to go forward.No wonder he came 4th , shame as the shepherd is a happy great worker , it &#039;s bad faults from the handler that have slipped in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>January 2011.Instead of stepping on the GSD&#8217;s toes and making him high step  , you train along a straight wall (one seen on indoor arena would do). The owner swings his hands when walking , making it harder for a dog to work neatly.The Sit command needs to be faster from the owner ..and again use the straight wall , work in tight so the dog cannot have the time to go in front. Re sitting the dog using hands , shifting him  by force in an uncomfortable area of the dog , does not work.In a finish , where the dog goes round the owner to heel , mix up german and english finish so the dog doesn&#8217;t learn to anticipate , use the Sit command very quickly on the english finish so the dog sits straight , no time for it to go forward.No wonder he came 4th , shame as the shepherd is a happy great worker , it &#8216;s bad faults from the handler that have slipped in.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Presdee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Presdee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the advisors  on torsion .A recovering GSD  fed chicken slices full of chemicals , when even I could see he sadly had the death mask on his face anyway ...GSD&#039;s fed on the floor!!.They have a short digestive tract for the relative size of the dog .They should be fed from raised bowls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the advisors  on torsion .A recovering GSD  fed chicken slices full of chemicals , when even I could see he sadly had the death mask on his face anyway &#8230;GSD&#8217;s fed on the floor!!.They have a short digestive tract for the relative size of the dog .They should be fed from raised bowls.</p>
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		<title>By: leila</title>
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		<dc:creator>leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAN I ALSO ADD THE AMERICAN BULLDOG IS USED AS A CATCH DOG BY LAND OWNERS FARMERS ETC AND COULDN&#039;T BE ANY MORE DIFFFERENT FROM A PIT BULL!!!!!!  I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAD A PIT BULL WHICH DIED LAST YEAR BUT EVERY TIME THE POLICE STOPPED HER SHE SAID IT WAS A ROTTIEX STAFF  AND IT WAS TWICE THE SIZE OF MY KC REG STAFF WHO IS TWICE THE SIZE OF A NORMAL STAFF ADMITTEDLY BUT NEVER ASKED ANY QUESTIONS OR CONTACT DETAILS OF THE BREEDER OR ANYTHING HAVE ALWAYS ACCEPTED IT&#039;S A CROSS WHICH PISSES ME OFF WHEN MINE ARE ACCUSED OF BEING PITTS AND CONSTANTELY CHECKING THEIR KC PAPERS AND VET RECORDS ETC!!!!!  U NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH AND TRAINING PEOPLE, I HAVE A VERY WIDE KNOWLEDGE OF DOGS AND BELIEVE ME 90% OF THE TIME I&#039;VE BEEN AMAZED HOW THICK THE DOG SQAUD HAVE BEEN!!!   AS EVERY TIME SHE WALKED THE DOG THE POLICE OWULD SAY THATS A NICE LOOKING STAFF AND BELIEVE ME DID NOT HAVE ANY TRAITS OF A STAFF UNLESS YOU&#039;RE COMPLETELY THICK YOU COULD SEE IT WAS A PIT!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAN I ALSO ADD THE AMERICAN BULLDOG IS USED AS A CATCH DOG BY LAND OWNERS FARMERS ETC AND COULDN&#8217;T BE ANY MORE DIFFFERENT FROM A PIT BULL!!!!!!  I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAD A PIT BULL WHICH DIED LAST YEAR BUT EVERY TIME THE POLICE STOPPED HER SHE SAID IT WAS A ROTTIEX STAFF  AND IT WAS TWICE THE SIZE OF MY KC REG STAFF WHO IS TWICE THE SIZE OF A NORMAL STAFF ADMITTEDLY BUT NEVER ASKED ANY QUESTIONS OR CONTACT DETAILS OF THE BREEDER OR ANYTHING HAVE ALWAYS ACCEPTED IT&#8217;S A CROSS WHICH PISSES ME OFF WHEN MINE ARE ACCUSED OF BEING PITTS AND CONSTANTELY CHECKING THEIR KC PAPERS AND VET RECORDS ETC!!!!!  U NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH AND TRAINING PEOPLE, I HAVE A VERY WIDE KNOWLEDGE OF DOGS AND BELIEVE ME 90% OF THE TIME I&#8217;VE BEEN AMAZED HOW THICK THE DOG SQAUD HAVE BEEN!!!   AS EVERY TIME SHE WALKED THE DOG THE POLICE OWULD SAY THATS A NICE LOOKING STAFF AND BELIEVE ME DID NOT HAVE ANY TRAITS OF A STAFF UNLESS YOU&#8217;RE COMPLETELY THICK YOU COULD SEE IT WAS A PIT!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: leila</title>
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		<dc:creator>leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI I AM EXTREMELY ANGRY AND DISSAPOINTED WITH THE APPARENTLY HIGHLY TRAINED DOG UNITS/SPECIALISTS U DON&#039;T KNOW UR ASS FROM UR ELBOW!!!!! WATCHED LAST NIGHT WITH AN APPARENT PIT BULL STUCK DOWN THE SIDE OF A SHED!!????!!!  IT WAS NOT A PIT BULL!!!! IT WAS AN AMERICAN BULLDOG (SCOTT TYPE) TO BE PRECISE!!!!!!  AND THE OTHER APPARENT RED PITBULL PICKED UP BY THE WOMAN WHO SAID SHE HAD NO PROBLEM HAVING THEM PUT DOWN THAT WAS A STAFF!!!!!  I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE POLICE I HAVE BRED KC REG STAFFS AND HAVE BEEN STOPPED BY POLICE BEACUSE THEY ARE WHITE AND EXTREMELY BIG!! THEY HAVE COME BACK TO MY HOUSE WITH ME CHECKED THEIR PAPERWORK AND TAKEN INFO OF MY VETS ETC WHICH I HAVE GIVEN HAPPILY BUT BOTH MINE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING PITS BECAUSE THEY&#039;RE WHITE WHICH IS UNUSUAL AND VERY WELL FED AND EXERCISED LEAVING THEM VERY IMPRESSIVE  ;-) BOTH OF MINE ARE SHOW DOGS ASWELL AND EXTREMELY SOCIABLE WITH PEOPLE,CHILDREN AND DOGS!!!!  I HAVE 2 CHILDREN AGED 4 AND 6 WHO MY DOGS HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH FROM PUPS!!! AND TRUST THEM 100% I ALSO HAVE AN AMERICAN BULLDOG AND CAN&#039;T WAIT FOR THE ROWS I&#039;M GONNA HAVE WITH HER WHEN SHE&#039;S OLDER!!&quot;!!!&quot;!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI I AM EXTREMELY ANGRY AND DISSAPOINTED WITH THE APPARENTLY HIGHLY TRAINED DOG UNITS/SPECIALISTS U DON&#8217;T KNOW UR ASS FROM UR ELBOW!!!!! WATCHED LAST NIGHT WITH AN APPARENT PIT BULL STUCK DOWN THE SIDE OF A SHED!!????!!!  IT WAS NOT A PIT BULL!!!! IT WAS AN AMERICAN BULLDOG (SCOTT TYPE) TO BE PRECISE!!!!!!  AND THE OTHER APPARENT RED PITBULL PICKED UP BY THE WOMAN WHO SAID SHE HAD NO PROBLEM HAVING THEM PUT DOWN THAT WAS A STAFF!!!!!  I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE POLICE I HAVE BRED KC REG STAFFS AND HAVE BEEN STOPPED BY POLICE BEACUSE THEY ARE WHITE AND EXTREMELY BIG!! THEY HAVE COME BACK TO MY HOUSE WITH ME CHECKED THEIR PAPERWORK AND TAKEN INFO OF MY VETS ETC WHICH I HAVE GIVEN HAPPILY BUT BOTH MINE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING PITS BECAUSE THEY&#8217;RE WHITE WHICH IS UNUSUAL AND VERY WELL FED AND EXERCISED LEAVING THEM VERY IMPRESSIVE  <img src='http://www.dogmagazine.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  BOTH OF MINE ARE SHOW DOGS ASWELL AND EXTREMELY SOCIABLE WITH PEOPLE,CHILDREN AND DOGS!!!!  I HAVE 2 CHILDREN AGED 4 AND 6 WHO MY DOGS HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH FROM PUPS!!! AND TRUST THEM 100% I ALSO HAVE AN AMERICAN BULLDOG AND CAN&#8217;T WAIT FOR THE ROWS I&#8217;M GONNA HAVE WITH HER WHEN SHE&#8217;S OLDER!!&#8221;!!!&#8221;!!!</p>
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		<title>By: brian hutchison</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian hutchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a ecelet programe on police dogs thay are well trained the ger man shepherd is a fantastic breed  i have owned three i am on third just now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a ecelet programe on police dogs thay are well trained the ger man shepherd is a fantastic breed  i have owned three i am on third just now</p>
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		<title>By: Freelance Writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelance Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi WM

Thanks for your comments.  I know of one southern constabulary with its head in the sand, that really does need a DLO even if it is to just save time, money and the risk of facing corporate responsibility for the individual force!

On the plus side, there are more and more DLO&#039;s appearing in police forces

I wasn&#039;t really knocking the police for sorting out evil people but the guy wearing a bite sleeve whilst driving has to be a tad mad! Surely assessment of the situation, then deployment of the appropriate PPE is the way forward?

The sensationalistic style of the programme is probably more suited to car chases and the like, as it moves from interesting drugs and explosive work with the specialist dogs to the seizing of type dogs. 

I support the police in the protection of the public from both people and dogs and understand the need for the enforcement of dog legislation but the police need to be supported by local government and central government.

The two latter groups need to raise awareness of responsible dog ownership and look at the introduction of dog registration to raise income for the setting up of appropriately funded dog warden services that will promote responsible dog ownership and carry out the administration of running dog registration in each council area.

A programme about the ins and outs of a dog registration scheme would probably be really boring in comparison to this programme?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi WM</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.  I know of one southern constabulary with its head in the sand, that really does need a DLO even if it is to just save time, money and the risk of facing corporate responsibility for the individual force!</p>
<p>On the plus side, there are more and more DLO&#8217;s appearing in police forces</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t really knocking the police for sorting out evil people but the guy wearing a bite sleeve whilst driving has to be a tad mad! Surely assessment of the situation, then deployment of the appropriate PPE is the way forward?</p>
<p>The sensationalistic style of the programme is probably more suited to car chases and the like, as it moves from interesting drugs and explosive work with the specialist dogs to the seizing of type dogs. </p>
<p>I support the police in the protection of the public from both people and dogs and understand the need for the enforcement of dog legislation but the police need to be supported by local government and central government.</p>
<p>The two latter groups need to raise awareness of responsible dog ownership and look at the introduction of dog registration to raise income for the setting up of appropriately funded dog warden services that will promote responsible dog ownership and carry out the administration of running dog registration in each council area.</p>
<p>A programme about the ins and outs of a dog registration scheme would probably be really boring in comparison to this programme?</p>
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		<title>By: WM</title>
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		<dc:creator>WM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One does have to wonder how much of this is sensationalised and edited by the production company.

I&#039;m not defending the Police, and I&#039;m certainly not a fluffy bunny hugger either. I too have been on raids as you state you have been. Yes there will be a number of police officers there to deal with the other offences and invariably it will be the police dog unit suggesting that they go in quietly so as to minimise the stress to the dog, and ultimately reducing the risk to other officers. Where they will negotiate with the suspect to allow access. There are occasions when this approach is not appropriate and then the full &#039;riot&#039; mode approach is taken, and I&#039;m sure if you cast your mind back to the raids/seizures you&#039;ve been involved in if you take snap shots of the situation as it unfolded you could sensationalise the whole process. Afterall how ofter have you known a raid/seizure to fit into a nice 30 minute/hour slot? it takes an awful lot of planning, briefing and execution of a warrant before the &#039;raid&#039; occurs &amp; certainly its very rarely an all guns blazing route...

I hear your comment about some forces not having a  DLO - I find it absolutely shocking that these forces do not have this as an emerging issue - its been on the cards for a very long time - ACPO have even ponied up with some training funds.

And yet there are a few in a Constabulary in the South of England who appear to have adopted the ostrich approach and are ignoring the issue in the hope that the problem will go away - sadly it won&#039;t, and moreso when programmes like this sensationalise the issue and give the irresponsible owners/criminals/drug dealers ideas that they can use their dogs to get them a few valuable minutes to dispose of evidence or use it as a weapon in an attempt to avoid being arrested.

I just hope these Constabularies that have decided to adopt the ostrich approach with their heads in the sand get their exposed bottoms bitten &amp;  not some innocent person caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then lets see how quickly the Constabularies react then, no doubt with a knee jerk reaction of putting someone in post who doesn&#039;t have a clue about the breeds or the legislation, or even worse passing the issue on to the local authority to deal with under their powers &amp; duties. These Constabularies don&#039;t appear to see the logic in being proactive and appointing a DLO in advance of an incident. They may be able to remove the risk of the incident arising in the first place! or are they happy to be found negligent in their duties &amp; then face the peanlties from the courts or the criticism in a coroners court when someone dies as a result of their inaction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One does have to wonder how much of this is sensationalised and edited by the production company.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending the Police, and I&#8217;m certainly not a fluffy bunny hugger either. I too have been on raids as you state you have been. Yes there will be a number of police officers there to deal with the other offences and invariably it will be the police dog unit suggesting that they go in quietly so as to minimise the stress to the dog, and ultimately reducing the risk to other officers. Where they will negotiate with the suspect to allow access. There are occasions when this approach is not appropriate and then the full &#8216;riot&#8217; mode approach is taken, and I&#8217;m sure if you cast your mind back to the raids/seizures you&#8217;ve been involved in if you take snap shots of the situation as it unfolded you could sensationalise the whole process. Afterall how ofter have you known a raid/seizure to fit into a nice 30 minute/hour slot? it takes an awful lot of planning, briefing and execution of a warrant before the &#8216;raid&#8217; occurs &amp; certainly its very rarely an all guns blazing route&#8230;</p>
<p>I hear your comment about some forces not having a  DLO &#8211; I find it absolutely shocking that these forces do not have this as an emerging issue &#8211; its been on the cards for a very long time &#8211; ACPO have even ponied up with some training funds.</p>
<p>And yet there are a few in a Constabulary in the South of England who appear to have adopted the ostrich approach and are ignoring the issue in the hope that the problem will go away &#8211; sadly it won&#8217;t, and moreso when programmes like this sensationalise the issue and give the irresponsible owners/criminals/drug dealers ideas that they can use their dogs to get them a few valuable minutes to dispose of evidence or use it as a weapon in an attempt to avoid being arrested.</p>
<p>I just hope these Constabularies that have decided to adopt the ostrich approach with their heads in the sand get their exposed bottoms bitten &amp;  not some innocent person caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then lets see how quickly the Constabularies react then, no doubt with a knee jerk reaction of putting someone in post who doesn&#8217;t have a clue about the breeds or the legislation, or even worse passing the issue on to the local authority to deal with under their powers &amp; duties. These Constabularies don&#8217;t appear to see the logic in being proactive and appointing a DLO in advance of an incident. They may be able to remove the risk of the incident arising in the first place! or are they happy to be found negligent in their duties &amp; then face the peanlties from the courts or the criticism in a coroners court when someone dies as a result of their inaction?</p>
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		<title>By: Trudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This made me so Angry :0(

Said by PC Emma Robling 

&quot;These dogs aint nice&quot;

&quot;I have no problem in putting these dogs 2 sleep&quot;

She is s dog handler 4 god sake dont she know its not the dogs fault
Deed Not Breed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me so Angry :0(</p>
<p>Said by PC Emma Robling </p>
<p>&#8220;These dogs aint nice&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I have no problem in putting these dogs 2 sleep&#8221;</p>
<p>She is s dog handler 4 god sake dont she know its not the dogs fault<br />
Deed Not Breed</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That programme makes me sick!</description>
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