Comments on: Want to Send a Dog to Its Death? Get ‘Qualified’ to do so in 240 Minutes http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/ the lifestyle magazine for dog lovers Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:23:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Alexander Hardy http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-46852 Alexander Hardy Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:05:58 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-46852 Yet again----THE Kennel Club covers itself in glory ! Yet again—-THE Kennel Club covers itself in glory !

]]> By: The Skeptic: Blog » Failed legislation http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-46662 The Skeptic: Blog » Failed legislation Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:53:22 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-46662 [...] Concerningly, while the court ignored the medical evidence demonstrating that Bruce was not a banned breed, the Kennel Club create ‘experts’ to identify banned Pit Bull breeds through a course lasting only three and a half hours. [...] [...] Concerningly, while the court ignored the medical evidence demonstrating that Bruce was not a banned breed, the Kennel Club create ‘experts’ to identify banned Pit Bull breeds through a course lasting only three and a half hours. [...]

]]> By: alex can http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-18480 alex can Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:17:40 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-18480 Presumably I can now become a breed expert in four hours and judge at least one group at a KC show without ever having seen a live dog of the breeds being judged. What a joke. Presumably I can now become a breed expert in four hours and judge at least one group at a KC show without ever having seen a live dog of the breeds being judged. What a joke.

]]> By: Dog Owner Suitability Test Proposal - Page 2 - Pet Forums Community http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-5417 Dog Owner Suitability Test Proposal - Page 2 - Pet Forums Community Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:21:25 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-5417 [...] the KC more than the Government? Don't know if you read this article relating to the KC and BSL Want to Send a Dog to Its Death? Get ‘Qualified’ to do so in 240 Minutes Ultimately if we can't trust the Govt which is DEFRA to enforce and implement dog laws, we're in [...] [...] the KC more than the Government? Don’t know if you read this article relating to the KC and BSL Want to Send a Dog to Its Death? Get ‘Qualified’ to do so in 240 Minutes Ultimately if we can’t trust the Govt which is DEFRA to enforce and implement dog laws, we’re in [...]

]]> By: sonya http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4509 sonya Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:39:45 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4509 This makes me sick!! Nothing else to say!! This makes me sick!! Nothing else to say!!

]]> By: Samir Ohri http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4373 Samir Ohri Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:01:14 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4373 hi Paul I agree with what you say on the subject that it is the majority of owners that cause this disgraceful movement against these type of animals, but I also think this behavior is in almost every type of animal. In more acurate documentation it is shown around the world that it is other breeds that actually bite more often but aren't exposed by the media because it "doesn't sell"......I agree in the wrong hands this breed can be dangerous but so can cross bred/working types dogs eg rotties, am bulldogs, patterdales, Greyhounds and even the KC staffordshire bull terriers were once used for hunting and probably still are. Any of these can be dangerous as straight bred or crossed with each other, so for me there has to be a better salution in the manner in which this matter is resolved. I have seen a english bullterrier crossed with a mastif on dog borstal that looked like a pitbull type, does that mean it should be put down? The saying dont judge a book by its cover springs to mind. I just wish others thought the same as me....... But i guess we aren't all the same..................... hi Paul
I agree with what you say on the subject that it is the majority of owners that cause this disgraceful movement against these type of animals, but I also think this behavior is in almost every type of animal. In more acurate documentation it is shown around the world that it is other breeds that actually bite more often but aren’t exposed by the media because it “doesn’t sell”……I agree in the wrong hands this breed can be dangerous but so can cross bred/working types dogs eg rotties, am bulldogs, patterdales, Greyhounds and even the KC staffordshire bull terriers were once used for hunting and probably still are. Any of these can be dangerous as straight bred or crossed with each other, so for me there has to be a better salution in the manner in which this matter is resolved.

I have seen a english bullterrier crossed with a mastif on dog borstal that looked like a pitbull type, does that mean it should be put down?
The saying dont judge a book by its cover springs to mind.
I just wish others thought the same as me…….
But i guess we aren’t all the same…………………

]]> By: alex can http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4292 alex can Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:17:57 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4292 Interesting a dog can judged to be killed after 4 hours training but it takes years to qualify to judge the prettiest dog, hippocracy at it's worst. Given that Staffies and English Bull Terriers are 'pit bull' types how does that get ignored? Surely experts must truly be experts, not self styled experts. How many of these experts will have owned or bred these dogs? In effect this is typical of the anticompanion animal movement (PETA & the RSPCA) which wants no pets, but for the dog industry to become involved is quite bizarre. Interesting a dog can judged to be killed after 4 hours training but it takes years to qualify to judge the prettiest dog, hippocracy at it’s worst.

Given that Staffies and English Bull Terriers are ‘pit bull’ types how does that get ignored?

Surely experts must truly be experts, not self styled experts. How many of these experts will have owned or bred these dogs?

In effect this is typical of the anticompanion animal movement (PETA & the RSPCA) which wants no pets, but for the dog industry to become involved is quite bizarre.

]]> By: CrazyCanine http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4206 CrazyCanine Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:13:06 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4206 Lindsay You have been around APBT's and APBT-types for nearly 20 years and you are still unsure on occasion! That say's it all about this course then really! If Lindsay has that much experience of working and being around such dogs, just what level of knowledge will be imparted on this course for those who may not have the exposure that people like Lindsay and Alison have had with these dogs or may rarely come into contact with them? Lindsay

You have been around APBT’s and APBT-types for nearly 20 years and you are still unsure on occasion! That say’s it all about this course then really! If Lindsay has that much experience of working and being around such dogs, just what level of knowledge will be imparted on this course for those who may not have the exposure that people like Lindsay and Alison have had with these dogs or may rarely come into contact with them?

]]> By: Lindsay http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4196 Lindsay Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:35:11 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4196 A study at Canineresearch.net shows that 98% of the participants (including veterinarians and other animal experts) could not positively identify a Pit Bull without also misidentifying other breeds as such. And these people are presuming to spawn experts in less than a day? I've been around APBTs and Pit Bull-types for nearly 20 years, and I still encounter dogs that stump me. For interest's sake, I'd love to take the course and see just how accurate it is, compared to my own life's experience. I'm beginning to feel like the world is becoming a big Twilight Zone episode. A study at Canineresearch.net shows that 98% of the participants (including veterinarians and other animal experts) could not positively identify a Pit Bull without also misidentifying other breeds as such. And these people are presuming to spawn experts in less than a day? I’ve been around APBTs and Pit Bull-types for nearly 20 years, and I still encounter dogs that stump me. For interest’s sake, I’d love to take the course and see just how accurate it is, compared to my own life’s experience.

I’m beginning to feel like the world is becoming a big Twilight Zone episode.

]]> By: melanie page http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4182 melanie page Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:24:09 +0000 http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/339/want-to-send-a-dog-to-its-death-get-qualified-to-do-so-in-240-minutes/#comment-4182 DNB were made aware of the training day just over a week ago and immediately contacted the KC to voice our concerns. DNB asked for and were given permission to attend but have since decided it would be inappropriate for us to do so. We, like many have concerns and have voiced these with the KC. We have no desire to enter into a public debate on the rights or wrongs of the course. DNB were made aware of the training day just over a week ago and immediately contacted the KC to voice our concerns. DNB asked for and were given permission to attend but have since decided it would be inappropriate for us to do so.
We, like many have concerns and have voiced these with the KC.
We have no desire to enter into a public debate on the rights or wrongs of the course.

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