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	<title>Comments on: RSPCA Heavily Criticised as Cruelty Case Collapses</title>
	<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: warrell</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-6643</link>
		<dc:creator>warrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why were there 32 dead horses on the site and why did 3 horses have to be immediately destroyed.  i do not have a lot of time for the RSPCA but surely this evidence speaks for itself.  To say that Gray 'rescues' horses is surely a lie, he sells them for the meat trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why were there 32 dead horses on the site and why did 3 horses have to be immediately destroyed.  i do not have a lot of time for the RSPCA but surely this evidence speaks for itself.  To say that Gray &#8216;rescues&#8217; horses is surely a lie, he sells them for the meat trade.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-6171</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave the Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-6171</guid>
		<description>Amanda, no I haven't forgotten about the thousands of animals the RSPCA help every year. I regularly work with RSPCA field officers, both 'Inspectors' and ACO's and have a great respect for the majority of them. However I also see the other side of the coin, the National Charity HQ and it's (mainly) non uniformed representatives. I see and hear the misrepresentations given out, the deliberate ignoring of organisations and individuals who don't subscribe to their brand of 'animal welfare' and I see constantly the results of their political lobbying.
Apart from my day job, Animal Control &#38; Welfare, I am also the Chairman of a small specialist animal sanctuary. The RSPCA fail to make clear that a large amount of the animals they 'rescue' are immediately passed on to organisations like mine when we have room or make room, who are also self funding.
My ex partner of ten years was an RSPCA officer and countless times she was in floods of tears at the end of a shift because she had brought home animals she had rescued but could not find anywhere to place them.
The RSPCA, national, has very few places for animals and rely on either the self funding local branches or small organisations like mine. 
It is time that the Political RSPCA reverted to its roots and regained the trust of the populace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, no I haven&#8217;t forgotten about the thousands of animals the RSPCA help every year. I regularly work with RSPCA field officers, both &#8216;Inspectors&#8217; and ACO&#8217;s and have a great respect for the majority of them. However I also see the other side of the coin, the National Charity HQ and it&#8217;s (mainly) non uniformed representatives. I see and hear the misrepresentations given out, the deliberate ignoring of organisations and individuals who don&#8217;t subscribe to their brand of &#8216;animal welfare&#8217; and I see constantly the results of their political lobbying.<br />
Apart from my day job, Animal Control &amp; Welfare, I am also the Chairman of a small specialist animal sanctuary. The RSPCA fail to make clear that a large amount of the animals they &#8216;rescue&#8217; are immediately passed on to organisations like mine when we have room or make room, who are also self funding.<br />
My ex partner of ten years was an RSPCA officer and countless times she was in floods of tears at the end of a shift because she had brought home animals she had rescued but could not find anywhere to place them.<br />
The RSPCA, national, has very few places for animals and rely on either the self funding local branches or small organisations like mine.<br />
It is time that the Political RSPCA reverted to its roots and regained the trust of the populace.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-6149</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-6149</guid>
		<description>Have you all forgotten how many thousands of animals the Rspca help every year. There are very few other people in the country who do anything to help neglected and abused animals. Without them there would be so many animals living horific existences. Like everyone in the world they may make a few mistakes but they also carry out a huge amount of good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you all forgotten how many thousands of animals the Rspca help every year. There are very few other people in the country who do anything to help neglected and abused animals. Without them there would be so many animals living horific existences. Like everyone in the world they may make a few mistakes but they also carry out a huge amount of good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Blending</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3429</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Blending</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3429</guid>
		<description>Thank you for that information about the horses. I remember hearing on the news when the story broke an RSPCA rep called mark martin giving some comments. In his presentation something did not ring true. There was something not being said. I have come to be highly suspect of this organisation of late. Because of their immense size they have to keep having high profile cases to keep them in the minds of the easily misled public. They need to keep their 100 million pound coffers filled yearly. They dont really care about the animals they only care about publicity. I hope the truth of the horse theft gets out and into the newspapers. This disgraceful charity needs sorting out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that information about the horses. I remember hearing on the news when the story broke an RSPCA rep called mark martin giving some comments. In his presentation something did not ring true. There was something not being said. I have come to be highly suspect of this organisation of late. Because of their immense size they have to keep having high profile cases to keep them in the minds of the easily misled public. They need to keep their 100 million pound coffers filled yearly. They dont really care about the animals they only care about publicity. I hope the truth of the horse theft gets out and into the newspapers. This disgraceful charity needs sorting out.</p>
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		<title>By: Fenris</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3413</link>
		<dc:creator>Fenris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3413</guid>
		<description>Horsedevotee please contact the SHG about this - your evidence could be vital.  You can contact either by phone 08700 72 66 89 or by e-mail shg@the-shg.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horsedevotee please contact the SHG about this - your evidence could be vital.  You can contact either by phone 08700 72 66 89 or by e-mail <a href="mailto:shg@the-shg.org">shg@the-shg.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Horsedevotee</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3352</link>
		<dc:creator>Horsedevotee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3352</guid>
		<description>I have always trusted that the RSPCA would be truthful in all matters. However, someone I know has had some real bad dealings with them just lately. The RSPCA and other organizations have told a mammoth heap of lies about him to the press ect...

You may have heard of the case about the Amersham so-called, horror farm? They told the press that there were 30+ dead and rotting animals in his yard - that's all lies. They said the animals were starving yet failed to mention that he had on site, a stacks of haylage, plus haylage in each animal pen alone with fresh drinking water. This man rescued a horse just a week before the RSPCA came to his yard - That horse is  poorly, but like I said, he rescued that himself - and he has proof of that. He has vet reports for all of his animals which were vetted just day before the so-called, "rescue operation" accured. One RSPCA officer took no notice of one of the indepentent vets on the scene, instead she and the RSPCA vet coupled up and said what they wanted to say.

The RSPCA have taken the family pets too - which includes horses, shetlands, and donkeys. They said these animals were starving, yet one of these pets the family have had for 16 years. Another is a 3 month old thriving donkey. If she and her mother were being starved of food and water then that baby would not have thrived from a starving mother. Also, two days after the RSPCA took the animals away, another donkey has given birth at a sanctuary - both mother and baby are doing well. Surely, if the mother was being starved it wouldn't be possible for her to give birth to a healthy baby.

The press have published several pictures of some of the animals. One of those pictures was of a colt - No ribs showing, nothing. - any vet worth his salt would know this colt was fit and well. He looks a little rough because he had been in a field. And incase they don't know - it does actually rain in amersham.  Another picture was of the horse he rescued but no mention of this rescue has been published in the papers.

It does not take a scientist to figure out their inconstistancies. I gained access to that yard the following day and what I found was a shockingly different picture to that of which the RSPCA reported on live TV.

I haves poken to people who were present on wednesday and what they have told me will destroy any trust I have in the RSPCA an other official organizations. 

I have pictures of some of the animals they removed from the farm - but these photoes are not in the newspapers.

I cannot believe how people can be allowed to do this to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always trusted that the RSPCA would be truthful in all matters. However, someone I know has had some real bad dealings with them just lately. The RSPCA and other organizations have told a mammoth heap of lies about him to the press ect&#8230;</p>
<p>You may have heard of the case about the Amersham so-called, horror farm? They told the press that there were 30+ dead and rotting animals in his yard - that&#8217;s all lies. They said the animals were starving yet failed to mention that he had on site, a stacks of haylage, plus haylage in each animal pen alone with fresh drinking water. This man rescued a horse just a week before the RSPCA came to his yard - That horse is  poorly, but like I said, he rescued that himself - and he has proof of that. He has vet reports for all of his animals which were vetted just day before the so-called, &#8220;rescue operation&#8221; accured. One RSPCA officer took no notice of one of the indepentent vets on the scene, instead she and the RSPCA vet coupled up and said what they wanted to say.</p>
<p>The RSPCA have taken the family pets too - which includes horses, shetlands, and donkeys. They said these animals were starving, yet one of these pets the family have had for 16 years. Another is a 3 month old thriving donkey. If she and her mother were being starved of food and water then that baby would not have thrived from a starving mother. Also, two days after the RSPCA took the animals away, another donkey has given birth at a sanctuary - both mother and baby are doing well. Surely, if the mother was being starved it wouldn&#8217;t be possible for her to give birth to a healthy baby.</p>
<p>The press have published several pictures of some of the animals. One of those pictures was of a colt - No ribs showing, nothing. - any vet worth his salt would know this colt was fit and well. He looks a little rough because he had been in a field. And incase they don&#8217;t know - it does actually rain in amersham.  Another picture was of the horse he rescued but no mention of this rescue has been published in the papers.</p>
<p>It does not take a scientist to figure out their inconstistancies. I gained access to that yard the following day and what I found was a shockingly different picture to that of which the RSPCA reported on live TV.</p>
<p>I haves poken to people who were present on wednesday and what they have told me will destroy any trust I have in the RSPCA an other official organizations. </p>
<p>I have pictures of some of the animals they removed from the farm - but these photoes are not in the newspapers.</p>
<p>I cannot believe how people can be allowed to do this to people.</p>
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		<title>By: CrazyCanine</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3108</link>
		<dc:creator>CrazyCanine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/284/rspca-heavily-criticised-as-cruelty-case-collapses/#comment-3108</guid>
		<description>What an utter disgrace! The RSPCA expects to proscute a pet owner who is alleged to have not cared for in this case cats correctly by using the legitimate force of the law.  Sadly the RSPCA by this account seems to think that it is above the law and does not need to comply with due process and fail to present evidence to the defence?

Well done to the lawyer for exposing the questionable methods of the RSPCA in this case and also to the judge for throwing this case out too. If they had abided to the letter of the law, I wonder if the pet owner would have been found guilty?

Nobody not even the RSPCA is above the law, if they do not adhere to it how can anybody have faith in them as a reputable organisation when they seem to (according to this report) do their own thing.

It is either incompetence or arrogance, but whatever it was by losing the case, they have wasted 'donation' money from the public that could have been better used for other animal welfare issues.

Acting like this shows that they keep the 'establishment' moniker of Royal but feel they can do what they want and ignore due process of law.

I know that at the end of the day, the cry will be 'help animals at all costs' but if they had acted correctly, they may have obtained a prosecution by using the correct procedure? 

Get a grip RSPCA and abide by the rule of the law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an utter disgrace! The RSPCA expects to proscute a pet owner who is alleged to have not cared for in this case cats correctly by using the legitimate force of the law.  Sadly the RSPCA by this account seems to think that it is above the law and does not need to comply with due process and fail to present evidence to the defence?</p>
<p>Well done to the lawyer for exposing the questionable methods of the RSPCA in this case and also to the judge for throwing this case out too. If they had abided to the letter of the law, I wonder if the pet owner would have been found guilty?</p>
<p>Nobody not even the RSPCA is above the law, if they do not adhere to it how can anybody have faith in them as a reputable organisation when they seem to (according to this report) do their own thing.</p>
<p>It is either incompetence or arrogance, but whatever it was by losing the case, they have wasted &#8216;donation&#8217; money from the public that could have been better used for other animal welfare issues.</p>
<p>Acting like this shows that they keep the &#8216;establishment&#8217; moniker of Royal but feel they can do what they want and ignore due process of law.</p>
<p>I know that at the end of the day, the cry will be &#8216;help animals at all costs&#8217; but if they had acted correctly, they may have obtained a prosecution by using the correct procedure? </p>
<p>Get a grip RSPCA and abide by the rule of the law!</p>
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