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	<title>Comments on: The Queen to Stop Breeding Corgis After Cancer Claims Another of Her Dogs</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Linebreeding and inbreeding are valuable tools that help to “set” a line with certain characteristics&quot;

Valuable to who? It&#039;s certainly not valuable to the dogs. Their owners yes, their ego and pockets certainly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Linebreeding and inbreeding are valuable tools that help to “set” a line with certain characteristics&#8221;</p>
<p>Valuable to who? It&#8217;s certainly not valuable to the dogs. Their owners yes, their ego and pockets certainly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan O'Meara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan O'Meara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really want to go down the line of comparing human health conditions with dogs? You absolutely sure about that?

OK. If you insist.

Your explanation on the following please: There are more genetic conditions that CAN affect humans yet the PRESENCE of genetic health conditions is MUCH more common in dogs than it is in people.

Perhaps you can explain how that might have happened?

At least the Queen understands where problems are. Probably why she has her own outcross dogs - she owns more crossbreeds than pedigrees. Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really want to go down the line of comparing human health conditions with dogs? You absolutely sure about that?</p>
<p>OK. If you insist.</p>
<p>Your explanation on the following please: There are more genetic conditions that CAN affect humans yet the PRESENCE of genetic health conditions is MUCH more common in dogs than it is in people.</p>
<p>Perhaps you can explain how that might have happened?</p>
<p>At least the Queen understands where problems are. Probably why she has her own outcross dogs &#8211; she owns more crossbreeds than pedigrees. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Edith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 10:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garbage of the highest order? Thats your article and your insulting reply to Millie Williams well put answer!!

Did you ever think about why so many humans are suffering of cancer these days? All due to inbreeding? Or maybe it is caused by pollution  with thousands of tons of chemicals or nuclear tests, nuclear accidents  etc. ?
Never heard of that? 

And where do you think came all the farm animals from we know today? 
Were they &quot;created&quot; like that or did the early farmers breed them to meet their needs...  And do you really think this was done without inbreeding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garbage of the highest order? Thats your article and your insulting reply to Millie Williams well put answer!!</p>
<p>Did you ever think about why so many humans are suffering of cancer these days? All due to inbreeding? Or maybe it is caused by pollution  with thousands of tons of chemicals or nuclear tests, nuclear accidents  etc. ?<br />
Never heard of that? </p>
<p>And where do you think came all the farm animals from we know today?<br />
Were they &#8220;created&#8221; like that or did the early farmers breed them to meet their needs&#8230;  And do you really think this was done without inbreeding?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan O'Meara</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/2494/the-queen-to-stop-breeding-corgis-after-cancer-claims-another-of-her-dogs/#comment-41075</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan O'Meara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say: &quot;Linebreeding and inbreeding are valuable tools that help to “set” a line with certain characteristics&quot;

and then finish with:

&quot;Next time please run your article past soemone who shows dogs and belongs to a breed club. Maybe they can tell you that the article you wrote makes you look totally ignorant in the eyes of those who know what is really going on.&quot;

Never have I read anything as hilarious. Never.

First of all you perpetuate this ridiculous, bizarre notion that inbreeding is &#039;OK&#039; provided it&#039;s done by people who &#039;know what they&#039;re doing&#039; - which is garbage of the highest order. Humans have known for many thousands of years what the negative results of inbreeding are and it seems only a section of idiotic dog breeders have failed to heed or acknowledge what nature has been telling them for eons.

Then you suggest I &#039;run my article past someone who shows dogs&#039; - nearly laughed myself off my chair at that one!

Yes, because I&#039;d be sure to get some intelligent information there wouldn&#039;t I?

When are people like you going to realise that the things you seem to think are perfect OK are, in fact, KILLING dogs? Seriously, you haven&#039;t got the first clue about how genetics work if you truly believe that inbreeding works in the way you so flippantly describe.

Do you think the Queen&#039;s foundation bitch was health screened back in 1959?

Did you even MENTION health screening ONCE in your ignorant little rant? Of course not! Because you hold on to this arrogant view that &#039;experience&#039; has the edge over science when it comes to inbreeding.

&#039;What&#039;s really going on&#039; - don&#039;t worry, I am well aware of &#039;what&#039;s really going on&#039; - you&#039;re a prime example.

Thankfully more and more people are starting to see the light. Starting to understand and acknowledge the massive damage that conceited breeders who believe they can defeat nature and the theories that Darwin himself struck out against have been doing to dogs for far, far too long now. Time for you to accept that no longer will people swallow this complete claptrap that &#039;inbreeding&#039;s ok provided you know what you&#039;re doing&#039;. It&#039;s a stupid, stupid thing to say and a dangerous thing to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say: &#8220;Linebreeding and inbreeding are valuable tools that help to “set” a line with certain characteristics&#8221;</p>
<p>and then finish with:</p>
<p>&#8220;Next time please run your article past soemone who shows dogs and belongs to a breed club. Maybe they can tell you that the article you wrote makes you look totally ignorant in the eyes of those who know what is really going on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Never have I read anything as hilarious. Never.</p>
<p>First of all you perpetuate this ridiculous, bizarre notion that inbreeding is &#8216;OK&#8217; provided it&#8217;s done by people who &#8216;know what they&#8217;re doing&#8217; &#8211; which is garbage of the highest order. Humans have known for many thousands of years what the negative results of inbreeding are and it seems only a section of idiotic dog breeders have failed to heed or acknowledge what nature has been telling them for eons.</p>
<p>Then you suggest I &#8216;run my article past someone who shows dogs&#8217; &#8211; nearly laughed myself off my chair at that one!</p>
<p>Yes, because I&#8217;d be sure to get some intelligent information there wouldn&#8217;t I?</p>
<p>When are people like you going to realise that the things you seem to think are perfect OK are, in fact, KILLING dogs? Seriously, you haven&#8217;t got the first clue about how genetics work if you truly believe that inbreeding works in the way you so flippantly describe.</p>
<p>Do you think the Queen&#8217;s foundation bitch was health screened back in 1959?</p>
<p>Did you even MENTION health screening ONCE in your ignorant little rant? Of course not! Because you hold on to this arrogant view that &#8216;experience&#8217; has the edge over science when it comes to inbreeding.</p>
<p>&#8216;What&#8217;s really going on&#8217; &#8211; don&#8217;t worry, I am well aware of &#8216;what&#8217;s really going on&#8217; &#8211; you&#8217;re a prime example.</p>
<p>Thankfully more and more people are starting to see the light. Starting to understand and acknowledge the massive damage that conceited breeders who believe they can defeat nature and the theories that Darwin himself struck out against have been doing to dogs for far, far too long now. Time for you to accept that no longer will people swallow this complete claptrap that &#8216;inbreeding&#8217;s ok provided you know what you&#8217;re doing&#8217;. It&#8217;s a stupid, stupid thing to say and a dangerous thing to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Millie Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/2494/the-queen-to-stop-breeding-corgis-after-cancer-claims-another-of-her-dogs/#comment-41041</link>
		<dc:creator>Millie Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 20:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write:
All of The Queen’s corgis descended from Susan, who passed away herself back in 1959. It is known that close line breeding can greatly exacerbate genetic conditions and hereditary diseases such as cancer.

I hope that you will only write about things that you might know something about in the future.  Breeding down from one lone individual, linebreeding and inbreeding are three very separate things.  You are equating apples and oranges.  Having Susan as the beginning of Her Majesty&#039;s line of corgis is not the same thing as linebreeding.  That is one dog in a line of dogs.  She may have occasionally bred back in a closely related individual, as most good breeders do.  

Linebreeding and inbreeding are valuable tools that help to &quot;set&quot; a line with certain characteristics.  It also can bring out undesirable characteristics, therefore, it is important to know the dogs and the close relatives of these parent dogs before attempting such a breeding.  People get into trouble when they don&#039;t know this,or don&#039;t care.  That is one of the many marks between a responsible breeder and an irresponsible breeder.

Then you make the leap that it&#039;s probably genetic, the cancer that took two of her dogs.  What kind of cancer was it?  Were these two dogs closely related, like siblings?  What research backs up your statement?

I simply hate it when people who don&#039;t know what they are writing about write about it with authority and the people who don&#039;t know any better take it as gospel.  Next time please run your article past soemone who shows dogs and belongs to a breed club.  Maybe they can tell you that the article you wrote makes you look totally ignorant in the eyes of those who know what is really going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write:<br />
All of The Queen’s corgis descended from Susan, who passed away herself back in 1959. It is known that close line breeding can greatly exacerbate genetic conditions and hereditary diseases such as cancer.</p>
<p>I hope that you will only write about things that you might know something about in the future.  Breeding down from one lone individual, linebreeding and inbreeding are three very separate things.  You are equating apples and oranges.  Having Susan as the beginning of Her Majesty&#8217;s line of corgis is not the same thing as linebreeding.  That is one dog in a line of dogs.  She may have occasionally bred back in a closely related individual, as most good breeders do.  </p>
<p>Linebreeding and inbreeding are valuable tools that help to &#8220;set&#8221; a line with certain characteristics.  It also can bring out undesirable characteristics, therefore, it is important to know the dogs and the close relatives of these parent dogs before attempting such a breeding.  People get into trouble when they don&#8217;t know this,or don&#8217;t care.  That is one of the many marks between a responsible breeder and an irresponsible breeder.</p>
<p>Then you make the leap that it&#8217;s probably genetic, the cancer that took two of her dogs.  What kind of cancer was it?  Were these two dogs closely related, like siblings?  What research backs up your statement?</p>
<p>I simply hate it when people who don&#8217;t know what they are writing about write about it with authority and the people who don&#8217;t know any better take it as gospel.  Next time please run your article past soemone who shows dogs and belongs to a breed club.  Maybe they can tell you that the article you wrote makes you look totally ignorant in the eyes of those who know what is really going on.</p>
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